Carbon Tax vs. Cap and Trade, Round Two


Two addenda to a post earlier this month on carbon tax vs. cap and trade:

* In defense of cap and trade, my co-workers notes that it is possible the scientists have a pretty good sense of what is a tolerable amount of carbon to be emitted each year, above which the atmosphere has trouble absorbing. So setting a ceiling allows you to have more certainty that you won't go over that threshold than if you just implement a tax and hope that the higher cost will get you to that number or lower.

* In defense of a carbon tax, this article reminds us that Europe's system hasn't worked so well because there were too many give-aways on the front end, so the price of credits was driven down and people didn't have enough incentive to change behavior.

On that note, here's a haunting quote from the above-linked article: "The US debate is really US-centered. There is so much focus on buying the 60 (Senate) votes needed, and each senator's vote that is bought comes with something attached, some type of concession for a sector or for trade unions."

In other words, in the spirit of compromise, we will both dilute the bill's environmental impact (cue boos from the Left), ratchet up the cost of energy with no offsetting tax cut (cue boos from the Right), and transfer billions to whichever industry and group is politically connected enough to get themselves written in (cue boos from the Center). Sounds like a winner all around.

Why people don't consider that a straight carbon tax with no give-aways, paired with a payroll tax cut, won't be better in the long-term, both economically and environmentally, is beyond me. Sure, you'll have your winners and your losers, but so what? Think about it this way: those who will win are those who have unfairly borne too much of the current burden, and those who will lose are those who have unfairly borne too little of the current burden. So if you win going forward, that's simply making up for the fact that you were losing before; and if you lose going forward, that's imply making up for the fact that you were winning before. And, ultimately, what we want is for people to change their behavior: if what I have been doing all along is now encouraged, I'll do more of it, and if what I have been doing all along is now discouraged, I'll do less of it.

As this article puts it, cap and trade advocates, knowing they're in for a battle against the status quo, want their proposal to go into the ring untarnished. Here's hoping that a carbon tax plan can give cap and trade at least a little bit of a scuffle first, if not pull the upset. After all, at stake isn't just one bloc of politicians, lobbyists, and special interest groups versus another; rather, it's merely the long-term sustainability of our economy and our planet.

Comments

Nicholas said…
I would be quite surprised if "the scientists" had any idea what amount of carbon would be tolerable, especially since "the scientists" don't exist. Consensus is elusive and often illusory.

We're not talking about solving F=ma here. The atmosphere is a famous example of the limits of our understanding.
LH said…
Nicholas, you're absolutely right. Even worse, the main cap and trade proposals don't appear to have done any serious modeling of climate impact. So basically, we're supposed to put our trust in one of the nation's most significant pieces of legislation based on nothing more than the fact that it seems like the proper thing to do.

Or, as Marginal Revolution puts it: more government revenue + stick it to the dirty polluters + transfer it to my friends = I really don't need any real proof that the environmental aspect will play itself out positively. Yikes! [See http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/05/my-markeywaxman-query-what-are-the-climate-benefits.html and http://www.theweek.com/article/index/96470/The_capandtrade_racket]
David Larsson said…
"serious modeling of climate impact"

I fear that (i) I wouldn't know a correct model of climate impact from an incorrect model of same if it rose up on its hind legs and accosted me, and (ii) neither would lots of folks who actually know something about climate models. For example, if we all assume that temperatures are going to rise and glaciers are going to melt, do we really have an accurate way to predict how this is going to affect land vs. sea level in Australia and Juneau? Or are we still learning? In crafting policy, don't we need to take into account the known limits of our knowledge?

Dave
LH said…
Dave, thanks for sharing. Agreed that models are not intended to be precise, and perhaps because we are breaking new ground, particular latitude should be given. I'm just suggesting that we know less and have less consensus than most people would care to admit. That global warming is happening and that it is man-made is fairly agreed upon.

But whether it is net bad, at what level the trade-off between impairing production and reducing carbon makes sense, and whether there is in fact a minimum threshold under which the environment can safely absorb emissions - i.e. the very things that would tend to drive the "if" and the "what" of a carbon policy - appear to be under-studied and over-claimed.

That being said, every day I find a new study to add to my pile of things to read, so perhaps it is out of ignorance that I suggest that conclusive and popular evidence doesn't yet exist.

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